{"id":10352,"date":"2019-02-02T01:21:04","date_gmt":"2019-02-02T07:21:04","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.candoclemency.com\/?p=10352"},"modified":"2022-08-19T10:11:17","modified_gmt":"2022-08-19T15:11:17","slug":"the-appeal-podcast-with-amy-ralston-and-craig-cesal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/the-appeal-podcast-with-amy-ralston-and-craig-cesal\/","title":{"rendered":"The Appeal podcast with Amy Ralston and Craig Cesal"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h1 class=\"wp-block-heading\"> DEBUNKING THE STORIES ABOUT FEDERAL PRISONERS DINING ON STEAK<br><\/h1>\n\n\n\n<p>As the government shutdown drags on, a number of media outlets\u2013from NBC News to USA Today to the Washington Post\u2013have run stories claiming that federal prisoners are eating elaborate steak dinners while prison guards go unpaid. This narrative, while obviously bogus, initially went unchallenged. This week, we are joined by two people who will help debunk it: Craig Cesal, a federal prisoner in&nbsp;Terre Haute,&nbsp;Indiana, currently serving life, and&nbsp;Amy Ralston Povah, a prison reform advocate and formerly incarcerated person.  <a href=\"https:\/\/theappeal.org\/the-appeal-podcast-debunking-the-stories-about-federal-prisoners-dining-on-steak\/?utm_source=The%20Appeal&amp;utm_campaign=2b9e2e5e03-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_08_09_04_14_COPY_01&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_term=0_72df992d84-2b9e2e5e03-58405407\">Read the transcripts or listen to the podcast.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"859\" height=\"718\" src=\"http:\/\/www.candoclemency.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Amy_Appeal-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10356\" srcset=\"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Amy_Appeal-1.png 859w, https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Amy_Appeal-1-300x251.png 300w, https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Amy_Appeal-1-768x642.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 859px) 100vw, 859px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Amy Ralston Povah<\/strong>: When you\u2019re in prison, we are scapegoated. We\u2019re quite often bullied. I think there needs to be a whole new training regimen for prison guards who feel it\u2019s appropriate to bully some of the least of us with no voice and no access to complain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Adam<\/strong>: And Craig Cesal, who is presently serving a life sentence at Terre Haute Federal Prison in Indiana, he\u2019ll be joining us in just a minute by phone.<div><strong>Craig Cesal<\/strong>: Well, our two biggest meals of the year,\u00a0of course, are Thanksgiving and Christmas. We were served about four or five ounces of Turkey, about two tablespoons of dressing, we get some mashed potatoes, we get some gravy and there\u2019s some little, we get a little slice of pie. So I mean there\u2019s, it is a nice meal, it\u2019s much nicer than the meals that we usually get, but there\u2019s not enough to have leftovers put it that way. And the other thing is the officers are served the exact same thing, except that they\u2019re allowed to get as much as they like. Plus they have a full salad bar with the whole accompaniment of things that are on the salad bar that we don\u2019t get that they have their own officer\u2019s mess, they eat fairly well in there at government expense.<\/div><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>and here <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DEBUNKING THE STORIES ABOUT FEDERAL PRISONERS DINING ON STEAK As the government shutdown drags on, a number of media outlets\u2013from NBC News to USA Today to the Washington Post\u2013have run stories claiming that federal prisoners are eating elaborate steak dinners while prison guards go unpaid. This narrative, while obviously bogus, initially went unchallenged. This week,&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":10359,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_blocks_custom_css":"","_kad_blocks_head_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_body_custom_js":"","_kad_blocks_footer_custom_js":"","_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[40,4],"tags":[32],"class_list":["post-10352","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-can-do-media","category-can-do-news","tag-can-do-clemency"],"featured_image_src_large":["https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/Screen-Shot-2019-02-02-at-1.55.25-AM.png",131,130,false],"author_info":{"display_name":"Amy Ralston Povah","author_link":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/author\/candoamy\/"},"comment_info":0,"category_info":[{"term_id":40,"name":"CAN-DO in the Media","slug":"can-do-media","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":40,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":199,"filter":"raw","cat_ID":40,"category_count":199,"category_description":"","cat_name":"CAN-DO in the Media","category_nicename":"can-do-media","category_parent":0},{"term_id":4,"name":"CAN-DO News","slug":"can-do-news","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":4,"taxonomy":"category","description":"","parent":0,"count":224,"filter":"raw","cat_ID":4,"category_count":224,"category_description":"","cat_name":"CAN-DO News","category_nicename":"can-do-news","category_parent":0}],"tag_info":[{"term_id":32,"name":"CAN-DO Foundation","slug":"can-do-clemency","term_group":0,"term_taxonomy_id":32,"taxonomy":"post_tag","description":"","parent":0,"count":33,"filter":"raw"}],"taxonomy_info":{"category":[{"value":40,"label":"CAN-DO in the Media"},{"value":4,"label":"CAN-DO News"}],"post_tag":[{"value":32,"label":"CAN-DO Foundation"}]},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10352","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10352"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10352\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14618,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10352\/revisions\/14618"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10359"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10352"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10352"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sheryanne.com\/cando-new2\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10352"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}